Warhammer fantasy empire lore reddit The lore just exists to sell toy kits so every army book is full of hyping up that specific army. I don’t claim to be a lore expert, but since the love for warhammer fantasy brought me here, I might as well try and help you . The lore comes from Total War Warhammer 3, which is, to my knowledge, the most authoritative source on anything Cathayan because it’s the only modern one. 000, Middenheim of 95. Warhammer still lives! We here at Warhammer Fantasy keep the game alive. From my understanding the two strongest factions are Skaven united and working together and the Chaos lords, and these two were the reasons the world ended. 000 and Talabheim of 72. Mazamundi, the second most powerful, once unknowingly destroyed an entire underground dwarf empire when he noticed a tectonic plate was misaligned and shifted it back into place with his mind. Could anyone who has the Forces of Fantasy book give me a rundown on which faction is stronger, and how to play to their strengths with units and tactics? A subreddit for the lore and stories encompassing the dark future of the Warhammer 40,000 franchise Official lore and fan fluff are welcomed. A subreddit for the lore and stories encompassing the dark future of the Warhammer 40,000 franchise Official lore and fan fluff are welcomed. A nobleman might get away with unlicensed magic use, until it is discovered by the wrong people: Wizards of the Colleges, Witch-Hunters or other Cult o A place for Warhammer 40k Blood Angels and their successors. Hello, I am kind of new to the warhammer lore however I would like to know why there's so many skulls in the symbols of the empire. From the 3 musketeers to Errol Flynn style swashbucklers. In all Warhammer settings the human empire is usually a power hungry, corrupt, greedy, untrustworthy, hateful and zealous bunch of people. In certain lore blurbs it will specifically mention how shepherds were merged with their flocks when the Polar Gates broke and unrestrained magic flooded the world. There's lots of great retailers who do Chaos Dwarfs far more justice than GW ever did. I am currently reading "Fantasy Roleplay - Sigmar's Heirs" (2005) and noticed, how small the Empire and maybe the whole Warhammer-World actually is! Apparently Altdorf has a population of 105. Is Elementalism still canon and has just taken a backseat with hedge wizards, or is that something that can be ignored in terms of lore? How accurately has Total War: Warhammer 1/2 portrayed The Empire in the Fantasy Universe? The reason I ask is because within the Total War game, the elector count of Wissenland is Eben Von Liebwitz. I was wondering how imperial armies look in lore but couldn't get a definitive answer looking it up so I figured I'd ask. A place to focus solely on the faction of Bretonnia from Warhammer Fantasy or similar properties (Black Library, Total War, 3D prints, etc. I really don't know much about Warhammer Fantasy. The one in the WFRP1 core book, which only labeled the at the time 7+1 Electoral Provinces (Reikland, Middenland, Ostland, Talabecland, Stirland, Averland, and Sudenland, plus the Moot) with no defined borders except for the Moot and spoke of additional "numerous smaller, semi r/Fantasy is the internet's largest discussion forum for the greater Speculative Fiction genre. When he founded the empire he was human. But it does feel implicitly like the Orcs were probably still created by the Old Ones and were part of whatever the old project was. But look at the publication dates on the editions: 4th Edition is published in '92, and 5th Edition in '96. Despite this, the magic school in Altdorf is still the most prestigious one since it is the one funded and protected by the Emperor. Humans were already living in the area we now call the Empire thousands of years before the birth of Sigmar. Was having some shower thoughts about the lore for Warhammer Fantasy and this one part came to mind: In the lore Karl Franz is the only human to successfully awaken and ride the Imperial Dragon and possibly the only human to ride any Dragon that didn’t involve necromancy like Vampires use or corruption shenanigans by Chaos (Edit: or use magic like Elspeth Von Draken). So the cold North of Naggaroth not only invited the harsh and brutal dark elves but also formed their minds and made them less empathic. Dark elves it's the Lord on dragon. Before hopping into The Old World, I want to know how good the Empire and High Elves are in the game, along with what their strengths and weaknesses are and their best units to invest in. What do they represent and what meaning do theyhave? I've been meaning to make a dedicated post on this. Strongly recommended. The End-times refer to the last events of the Old World, as GW basically concluded the setting and created the Mortal Realms - where AoS takes place. Forge World doesn't make Chaos Dwarfs anymore - they got discontinued last year, IIRC. Come here for… Hey man. Marienburg doesn’t like any of the empire. I've read the dwarf lore in The Old World rulebook, the 7th edition dwarf army book, and in the 8h edition Warhammer rulebook. As well, take a look at Warhammer: Age of Blood and decide the fate of the Old World with your own Armies! Every part of the empire doesn’t like another part of the empire. This is why the Northern Provinces had the oldest magic schools in the Empire. Share with us your homebrew rules, podcasts, art, and music. And yet during The End Times she encouraged Teclis to screw over the Empire by destroying Ulric’s Flame and letting the World burn. As an outsider looking in, superficially, these factions look quite similar but with the empire being based on a later period in history. The minis dictate the lore so we didn't have an even spread of genders in the first editions that really strengthened the lore (4th Warhammer, 2nd 40k). Much the same as in the original warhammer fantasy battle. Good morning all I hope you're all well and having a good day, I was wondering if I could call on your collective wisdom. The Empire isn't medieval Europe though, it's a combination of renaissance and early modern Europe. I would say the necro sphinx (battle cat version) are the best for the Tomb Kings. The Lorebeards streams have gotten ridiculously good since former Warhammer and Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay writer Andy Law has joined. The lore is written in service to that wargame. No video game posts will be accepted. The empire is a safe place (compared to the rest of the world), and there is no 'only war' like 40k (the great battles are exceptional, many citizens of the empire are oblivious to the dangers that lurk outside). Hope you all… High Elves are the British, Dark Elves the Americans who rebelled, Bretonnia the French, the Empire Germany, Lizardmen the indigenous people, Tomb Kings Egypt, Araby is Africa and Morocco, Skaven unfortunately do fit the Muslim/Persian negative stereotypes, Cathay is China, Ogres the Mongols, Norsca the Vikings, Nippon Japan, Kislev Tsarist Russia, Vampire Counts a negatively framed Hungary 16 votes, 19 comments. Basically after the war against chaos (morkar was everchosen at the time) and after the first battle of Don't forget that elves in Warhammer and broader fantasy worlds are highly magical beings that influence their surrounding and are influenced by their environment. A little snippet of the lore I always wondered about was the Bretonni tribes being invited to join the Empire of Man but rejected it. That means there are some important concessions to make, most notably that 1. The study and use of Magic is only allowed for licensed Wizards from the Colleges of Magic. The diversity - Surprisingly, For the longest time, Warhammer was far more diverse in army options than the Galaxy spanning Warhammer 40k. Do they exist in the lore ? I am speaking about "legal" (or semi-legal let's say) secret societies, for instance between rich merchants (outside of guilds) or between members of the nobility, knights. Every part of the empire doesn’t like another part of the empire. Magic within the Empire is highly distrusted and practicing magic in the warhammer world is genuinely dangerous affair. As long as it's relevant it's welcome! At this point in time sigmar is a god and isn't active the setting. Prepare for Battle in the Warhammer Fantasy World. But I don't think the Cresecent Moon would exist in later editions of Warhammer Fantasy. I dont care about politics and dont want to think about them when watching lore videos. I didn't how to portray it or have justified reason. ). In Warhammer Fantasy it really comes across as the Old Ones hop from planet to planet, they were at some planet before the Warhammer Fantasy one and after the Chaos portals opened, they continued onto a new project. I wonder for the sake of argument that Karl Franz was able to successfully unite the two nations somehow, and perhaps to be extremely optimistic had Kislev and the Southern Realms join in a big Commonwealth of Man. Come, join us and relive an Age of War unending. Every man, woman and child that shows signs of magical affinity has to be reported to the state and handed over to the Colleges of Magic where they stay under close surveillance and are trained to controll their powers - all imperial mages that you see in the game are state A subreddit for the lore and stories encompassing the dark future of the Warhammer 40,000 franchise Official lore and fan fluff are welcomed. Elves share the same professionalism and courage, albeit their troops are also professional farmers, stonemasons, artists, maybe even minor magic users. "The Blood Angels, originally known as the Revenant Legion were the IX Legion of the original Space Marine Legions under their Primarch Sanguinius. For low level Wizards I think Daemonology, Dark Magic and Illusion are good, especially for Empire Wizards since they lack a Army specific Lore of Magic. We all know the steam tank was one of the empire’s most technologically advanced vehicle in the old world, enemies spine running in fear as they hear the whistles, cannon bullet plowing through the army, making a empty line inside the enemy army, even with ammunition all empty, they still can ram through with their thick armor, the wheels making creaking sounds with bloods spatter, running 60 votes, 16 comments. It's hard to find a precise date on Imperial gunpowder, but some sources suggest it's a very recent development. Beastmen are, just as they sound a mixture of man and beast. I think Illusion has some VERY powerful hard to cast spells. 000. Same is for High Elves, the frost fire Phoenix are more support monsters. Warhammer fantasy has decades of Lore built up making it rich and deep, but then always found itself in a rough spot explaining how different factions interacted with each other that made sense and also stuck in place with time as they really couldn't do much for moving things Warhammer still lives! We here at Warhammer Fantasy keep the game alive. The Empire in Warhammer is an analogue to the Holy Roman Empire, which you could say was a Roman Empire, but it wasn't really in anything but name. I’m newer to WHF Lore than 40k. This is a community for friendly discussion about Fantasy Flight Games' (now Edge's) Star Wars RPG. Hey Guys, I'm newly fan of Warhammer fantasy, I'm pretty much in to lore and I've been wondering among the winds of magic (i mean those of imperial colleges), what lore is the overall the best? not just in combat, but also good at defense, survival, or any other things for daily life and stuff With my growing interest in the new Total War: Warhammer game, and my existing love of Warhammer 40,000 I've create this sub to draw in people interested in the new (AoS - Age of Sigmar) and past (Warhammer Fantasy Battles) lore! I'm hoping for people to start posting and asking questions here. This system began with the release of the beta Edge of the Empire rulebook in 2012, and it's since blossomed into full fantasticness with three core rulebooks, four beginner's boxes, and over a dozen adventures and sourcebooks. The army books and the books that deal with the RPG are ok. All the things you mention factor in heavily to the storyline of the Enemy Within Campaign. The Empire has basically had four map iterations so far. Two very knowledgeable Warhammer lore fans doing a deep dive into a specific topic each Sunday. On more personal terms, they've fought plenty of battles against one another. In fact, Kislev which is far less powerful and properly equipped for the fight did a damn good job of serving as the wall between Chaos and the southern lands for a good 500 years. I'm guessing there are probably great differences between them, what are they? Are there any novels that are a good entry into Bretonnia and fantasy lore? The empire did pretty good at holding back Chaos most of the time. Also, the current Empire army is unique in the lore in that it is differnt (hopefully better) than it was a century ago and might be even better a century later. So to cut straight to it, I'm wanting to get back into Warhammer Fantasy and get prepped for The Old World. My personal favourite is Lost Kingdom Minis, who make some great Chaos Dwarf stuff (they sell 3D shapefiles, but you can find authorized dealers of their stuff on etsy and eBay). 40k's diversity was in splits within the same races, where as Warhammer just had a crap ton of different races. I like to play tw warhammer "lore accurate", aka i try to build my armies and AI armies around how they would look in lore. As well, take a look at Warhammer: Age of Blood and decide the fate of the Old World with your own Armies! I have a question about existing secret societies within the empire. Okay, the Warhammer Fantasy: Empire jump is done - courtesy of me, Poscidon (on the Discord) and u/EYouchen . The southern empire states and the northern states don’t like eachother. Even though she was responsible for Karl Franz becoming Emperor and forming an alliance with Bretonnia in previous Lore to prevent The End Times. I got behind the idea that lore should seen as bible and if i wanted to potrai warhammer world as best as i can, i should take a lore accurate as possible. I just like to have my Skaven and Beastmen kill Empire soldiers on the tabletop :D But that horrible war of total extermination deep underground between Dwarfs and Skaven really makes my imagination run amok! Aos is just the continuation of Warhammer fantasy Lore, and there's not really what's better between the two tbh. . Just try this list and make some friends :) 2,5K of Legal Dirt ++ Characters [1160 pts] ++ Captain of the Empire [153 pts] (Hand weapon, Lance (if appropriately mounted), Full plate armour, Shield, Battle Standard Bearer [War Banner], Barded Warhorse, Talisman of Protection) Special Rules: "Hold the Line!", Rallying Cry Welcome to the Warhammer Fantasy RPG subreddit, a place to discuss roleplaying done in the Old World! Share with us the devious adventures you're planning for your players, or complex character you're running as right now. That goes to Warhammer 40k, in which the Imperium of Man is most definitely an analogue for the Roman Empire. Due to various factors, Games Workshop - the company that produces warhammer - decided to end Warhammer Fantasy, and introduce Age of Sigmar. Only reason r/40kLore exists is because it's a massive detailed setting and only reason r/AoSLore exists is because it's an abstract hard to understand setting. Reply reply Ztrobos Hello, I'm currently building a dwarf army for The Old World, and for the occasion I'm delving into dwarf lore, pulling out my old books. So to first clarify, I am not ignorant of either the basic inspirations that make up the Empire of Man in Fantasy nor of the different Army Books which exist for the faction (Uniforms and Heraldry of the Empire is a particularly good resource) but rather I'm asking for your all's opinion on the internal structures of the Empire within Warhammer Fantasy. The Moot's Ogre population. The Ungols lived there first, and after helping Sigmar at the Battle of Blackfire Pass, they would remain distinct from the peoples that came to assemble the Empire as thanks for their aid. but not exactly what I would call comprehensive. One particular lore story describes how a dwarf clan is contracted to build a castle for an imperial lord. All SFW posts are welcome: hobby, army lists, lore, fanart, battle reports, and so forth. From my understanding the Sigmar was a God the whole time, but decided to show up afte Slann are ludicrously powerful in the lore. The justification for the Empire side of the DLC is that the Empire sees Lustria as rich land it can exploit to bolster itself in the Old World. They build a mighty fine castle but when payment is due, the dwarfs find that they're getting shortchanged. Blizzard doesn't really give numbers for the various Alliance factions numbers in Lore, but remember, they all got their numbers massively reduced either while fleeing to Kalimdor from a zombie apocalypse that was weaker than ones that the Empire has weathered multiple times in its history, Warcraft 1-2 saw their struggles against orcs that are A place to focus solely on the faction of Bretonnia from Warhammer Fantasy or similar properties (Black Library, Total War, 3D prints, etc. The Empire is culturally somewhat based on the UK, since the people who created warhammer in the 80s were British, and many but not all, since then, who have developed warhammer are also British. A few spoilers ahead; i think you know all of them but its always nice to tell this in advance. Every faction must have a reason to fight every other faction, including itself, and 2. Slaanesh also likes to feed on Elves in Warhammer Fantasy, and has a proclivity to yoink their souls after death; the main difference is that the Elven pantheon still exists in Fantasy, the and can challenge Slaanesh's claim to their soul, to a degree, but the types of elven gods that desire elf souls are generally not a whole lot better than Slaanesh, anyway, and so elves tend towards Welcome to the Eldar Subreddit, the premier place on Reddit to discuss Eldar, Dark Eldar and Harlequins for Warhammer 40,000! Feel free to share your army lists, strategies, pictures, fluff and fan-fic, or ask questions or for the assistance of your fellow Eldar! A subreddit for the Total War strategy game series, made by Creative Assembly. The WFRP Companion states that even the Dwarfs didn't perfect gunpowder until the early 18th century, against Gorbad Ironclaw, and it slowly trickled into the Empire with outcast Dwarf engineers after that. 4E’s starting situation is heavily based on the First Edition’s lore and takes place a few years (about 12, from the toof my head) before the setting you’re most familiar with, where Ostermark is a province, Talabheim is the capital of Talabecland, etc. In fact, Middenheim has the oldest wizarding school in the Empire according to Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 4th Edition. In the latest lore before GW ended Fantasy, Kislev was always it’s own thing. 93 votes, 25 comments. With the plundered riches and gold of Lustria, the Empire can properly arm and equip its armies to handle the incursions of Chaos and the barbarian races. The Warhammer Fantasy Battles army books understandably almost entirely focused on the military and conflict. A reddit about the A place to focus solely on the faction of Bretonnia from Warhammer Fantasy or similar properties (Black Library, Total War, 3D prints, etc. I've decided this time around I am going to play the Empire! However, I only have some periphery knowledge of the 4 factions. But it seems like the WHF Empire is a dysfunctional political institution that does bad things… I'm looking for more sources of lore about the Warhammer Fantasy world, Specifically anything that details what it's like living in the Empire and the politics around the different kingdoms. Now thanks to some old army books I was able to buy along with You could easily mix them, as a big lore buff and avid reader of all old world black library publications I can say many armies have units from a wide variety of provinces for various reasons. Never trust in the halflings! You can never know when they will unleash their ogres! (ok I know that technically the Ogre Man-Eaters are not empire units, but in lorewise they are a significant migrant force in the Empire and most of them are settled down either to the Moot cause food or one of the bigger city of the Empire and now being a conman or a hired muscle) Its also important to remember that Bretonnia has reliable access to air units like the Pegasus Knights which help a lot in countering the Empire's ranged superiority, that in Warhammer Fantasy Longbows outshoot muskets and that every Bretonnian Knight can just kneel and pray which gives them a powerful divine protection like what Daemons and Sisters of Battle have. "Nobles however are free to learn whatever skill they want, including magic. Yeah it's always worth keeping in mind GW had already produced and seen female miniatures weren't being purchased before Warhammer Fantasy Battle lore really formed (4th edition). Well to understand why the empire got so big, I guess we need to understand it’s history, particularly during sigmar’s time, when he was ruler . We welcome respectful dialogue related to speculative fiction in literature, games, film, and the wider world. That said, there's also no reason to think Empire swordsmen are any worse than Estalian fencers. I missed out on Warhammer Fantasy as a child and teenager due to lack of funds or a nearby store and by the time I had both it was gone and AOS was there (which I do enjoy and I apologize if that's blasphemy). Consider that the HRE contained a lot of territory in SE France, Northern Italy, and Poland/Czech Republic that the WHFB Empire pretty clearly does not own (the whole Balken region is border prince territory, the Empire has no territory in Italy/Tilea, the Empire does not have any territory south of the Grey Mountains into Brettonia, and Czech No, pretty sure this subreddit acts as both, ask away if you have any lore questions. Fans of fantasy, science fiction, horror, alt history, and more can all find a home with us. They are written to embody the dashing bold swordsman cliche. ) That was powerful stuff and I am not even that big a fan of any warhammer lore or warhammer in general. The Empire and Dwarfs as civilizations are on good terms. Through the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying Game the cultures of a number of regions and races have been fleshed out, the Empire in particular has multiple in depth sourcebooks that explore the day-to-day life within its borders. So, it's not a new situation. As well, take a look at Warhammer: Age of Blood and decide the fate of the Old World with your own Armies! Welcome to the Warhammer Fantasy RPG subreddit, a place to discuss roleplaying done in the Old World! Share with us the devious adventures you're planning for your players, or complex character you're running as right now. I've read my way through a lot of 40k lore via books and the wiki(so I know about the timeline, races and major events in the universe) but after playing a lot of Vermintide, Total War and just enjoying other fantasy type things like Pathfinder I want to take the plunge, and I just enjoy reading books. However I cannot find any lore on him what so ever, only Emmanuelle Von Liebwitz, which from what I can see is a relation to Eben. 000, Nuln of 85. Living openly on the Street of a Hundred Taverns doesn't seem their style. For comparison the numbers of the biggest real european citys in 1650 (statista): The fantasy setting is more low fantasy in most of prts of the civilized space, most of the monsters and crazy shit are in the frontiers. 97K subscribers in the WarhammerFantasy community. Warhammer(fantasy and 40k)/AoS has has a general habit of making the names hero/protagonist far stronger than they have any right to be, and the army book fluff might just as well be considered faction propaganda. the same of course can be said for the Lore produced for Warhammer Fantasy Battle. Would it have been enough to stop Archaon The only consistent information you’ll find will be the tabletop stats and comparing them to other units. His videos are about warhammer lore and honestly i didnt even know he is somehow controversial before reddit told me so. Elementalism - this form of magic, which is supposed to predate the Teclis-method for the Empire, seems to be a brainchild of the first edition of roleplaying, never to be seen again afterwards. My army is typically: infantry (roughly 50-60% of my army): Warhammer Fantasy ran for a little over thirty years, from 1983 to 2015. England during its Civil War in the mid-1600's (which is also an influence on some aspects of the Empire) raised something like 150,000 men in the field despite a population of only 5,000,000. If you do want to post about video games, then you might want to look at r/totalwar. During the end times, he got incarnated and fought as a human for a bit (there's a whole series of books and novels set into the end times. Discussions, strategies, stories, crude cave-drawings, and more for Medieval 2, Empire, Shogun 2, Rome 2, Attila, Thrones of Britannia, Warhammer, Three Kingdoms, Troy, Pharaoh and others. As long as it's relevant it's welcome! There are many Omnibuses that you can read to get a good look of each faction, Gotrek and Felix are for the world in general, the Tyrion and Teclis for the elves, there are 3 collections of the origin of 3 races, the Sigmar trilogy, the Secession trilogy (about the elven civil war) and the Nagash books, the next one that im going to read is about the characters of the Empire Any of the warhammer chronicles omnibus books you can get your hands on are prime. Posts must be related to the Warhammer Fantasy Battle/Old World (including Warhammer Armies Project) tabletop game. Posts about other games systems made by Games Workshop, or other games altogether, will not be accepted. Warhammer doesn't do consistency. And this made ask question to how to make lore friendly female empire soldier. " This is incorrect. Warhammer fantasy is based on myths and preconceived notions of medieval / renaissance Europe. Namely The legend of sigmar - basically the birth of the empire and sigmar's ascension to godhead In addition, I know there are quite a few Necromancers in the lore who appear to be more attached to lands bordering or existing in the Empire's scope, such as Dieter Helsnicht, Heinrich Kemmler, Helmer Ghorst, Zelig van Kruger (Who I can't find any lore on, truthfully), etc, just to give some examples. The good old flame war about arch is here again :D Personally i think he makes pretty good lore videos and i enjoy wathing them. I like some of the Ru Hey ya'll, still new to Warhammer lore! I started playing Vermintide a few months ago and beginning to learn more about Warhammer fantasy. Hey all, looking for some advice on where to start to starting learning Warhammer Fantasy lore. Lahmians are secretive and operate a shadow society under the surface, as spies and power brokers for Neferata. And then it has been changed and modified with time. Warhammer Fantasy is first and foremost a wargame. It would be something you would want to take with a 4th level Wizard and a Lore Familiar. A subreddit for the Total War strategy game series, made by Creative Assembly. From 1st through 3rd Edition, '83 to '96 is thirteen years out of thirty-two, or 40% of the total existence of Warhammer Fantasy Battles, which looks like a lot. In my opinion raising an army larger than 50,000 isn't really that hard, in reality the Roman Empire(the Roman Empire, not the Holy Roman Empire, the real one, not the confederation of Germanic barbarians renamed as Rome by the pope) used to have a larger army of 150,000 men(30 legions of 5,000 men) during its peak golden ages, the reason why Ready yourself for a mighty multi-paragraph text-bomb! So, I first wanted to point you to another wiki page on the Witch hunters, to let you know that there are far more than just the Sigmarite Templars, but also semi-official hunters from other cults, such as the Black Guard of Morr; you can also find pragmatic mercenaries who answer to coin, salaried civil servants, or just the self Total Warhammer is not an accurate depiction of lore since it wouldn't be fun if over half the time your firearm and cannons explode/misfire like they are stated in lore. Yes! but not the most useful for use in the setting of a roleplaying game. Tilea is an analogue for Italy/Rome, but not the Roman Empire. uhxd kxiq pwib lqhj isx sxval doec ubroqy xtt ewbyar